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1998

Tickets stub from Aerosmith, Polaris Amphitheater, 1998

January 1 – the collective misery of the John Cooper era continues as OSU suffers a relative blowout in the Sugar Bowl, losing to 4th ranked Florida State. Though a 31-14 drubbing doesn’t look too horrific on paper, the Damon’s where I was working went from a riotous mob to mass walkouts somewhere around the halfway mark.

January 4 – Brasiliera play at Dick’s Den. At the behest of bartender Dusty, who also slings drinks at Damon’s, I’m finally getting around to checking out this legendary jazz epicenter for the first time tonight. He said he would slide me a free beer or two, and that’s pretty much all a cash strapped character such as I needs to hear.

The bar will establish itself with an auspicious start before I even set foot in the place. As I pull up to the curb on High, a short distance from the club, there’s a police cruiser with his jackpot lights twirling even closer to it, nearly in front. After making my way underneath the famous question mark sign and inside the bar, some crazy old timer, eyeballing the nonexistent scene out there with intensity, tells me that someone was just mugged up the street.  

He adds that this is a dangerous neighborhood and that such incidents are constantly transpiring around here – which I find a guffaw inducing sentiment. No region is truly insulated from crime, but calling this area a rough part of town is a sizeable stretch. This is north campus. It’s no more dangerous than any other area of campus, and probably less so than many. Back in the summer I was even accosted on Summit while walking home from Studio 35. Some drunken or deranged hillbilly kept pace with me on the opposite sidewalk, block after block, and kept shouting insults, how he was going to run across the street and kick my ass. I’m not sure where he came from, for he appeared out of nowhere. Spotting, as it happens, a police cruiser with his lights on up ahead, I told myself to just keep calmly walking and saying nothing, until I reached that destination. Only to do so and find no officer in sight. Upon which, thinking it a good idea not to let this madman see where I live, I hook a left at the next intersection and book it out of range. 

You can’t let fluke occurrences deter you from perfectly reasonable experiences. I’ve walked past this bar by myself, actually, to and from work or even just goofing around, on countless occasions. Setting foot inside a strange place is always nerve wracking, for whatever reason, particularly if alone, but the day we start fearing these neighborhoods is a mighty dim one. 

Seeing a familiar face always helps with the comfort level and the safety, regardless, and when Dusty cheers my name from behind the bar, I already feel at home inside this cozy, wood paneled establishment. As I drop into an empty seat at said bar, he slides this unadventurous drinker a bottle of Budweiser, which is another old friend, you might say, the proverbial worn pair of shoes. A concept extending in some fashion to the band on stage in the other half of the room, Brasiliera, whom I’m never witnessed before, yet have seen mentioned in print countless times via Alive! or The Other Paper. 

A band composed of seven white people who appear to be in their mid-thirties, they’re nonetheless blowing what I would term a Latin tinged jazz. The chick singing and dude playing the trombone seem to function as ringleaders with this troupe, complemented in exquisite fashion by another girl on flute, the guys manning drums, bass, guitar and piano posts. A very talented group, probably the best I’ve seen since moving to Columbus and if not then running a close second only to those swing leaning lads in Thirteen O’Clock. 

As for the bar itself, this dark wood motif prevails everywhere, decorated in the same down to earth style as and exuding an identical vibe to Ruby’s. One key difference is that, by force of conscious decision and also as byproduct of booking these bands, this place does skew a little older. It’s far less saturated with hippie types, dependent instead upon a more reserved, non-cannabis-reeking hepcat crowd. Predominantly male, too, I would gauge, so it’s not exactly babe central. Just a solid entertainment option maybe once or twice a year. 

Dusty buys me a second beer, as I check out their impressive liquor arsenal along a mirror lined wall behind the bar. Elsewhere, there’s a chalkboard posted, listing a number of upcoming bands. Then tonight’s outfit is on break and two of the members are chatting with this guy in a nearby stool, who by the sounds of things must run this place. 

I’m listening to their conversation for a while and then, by the time Brasiliera grace the stage once more, I’ve just about killed this drink. Upon doing so, I thank Dusty and tip him a couple of bucks, though am wondering on the ride home if this was an etiquette faux pas on my part – at the very least, I should have slid him the cost of that second beer, as this is presumably the whole point of inviting people you know to your bar and sneaking them gratis beverages. 

As it turns out, though figuring I’ll just apologize the next time I see him at work, that never happens. He’s just another character in the long line of them who simply stop showing up at our rib joint, and nowhere near the most remarkable. Sorry, Dusty, nothing personal – I’m mostly thinking about the women we worked with, and wouldn’t consider myself a remarkable character, either.

January 13 – Superstar Rookie, Midway, and Vena Cava play at Little Brothers.

January 21 – the Cincinnati Reds’ Winter Caravan comes to Flannagan’s. Manager Jack McKeon, hitting coach Ken Griffey, Sr., a couple announcers (among them Joe Nuxhall) and four players make this treacherous promotional journey.

February 1 – Trio Melange play Short North Tavern. This it would seem is a traveling portion of the Cleveland Orchestra, featuring flutist Heidi Ruby-Kushious, harp player Tina Struble and the cello master Paul Kushious.

February 4 – Swabby continues his residency at the Northberg Tavern.

February 6 – Alan & I split a pitcher & play some pool at Ruby Tuesday. Then we grab some more beer and sit down on the other side to watch this weird ass band called Foley.

Once they take the stage, we decide to sit down at a table in that darkened half of the bar to observe the show. And while they are thankfully free of the standard Dead style marathon jam trappings of seemingly ¾ the bands who play here, this is probably the strangest outfit I’ve seen thus far, Columbus or anywhere else. 

After they’ve finished setting up and launch into their first set, we can’t tell if this is the actual performance or a quote unquote warmup for the real gig. Though the bar is about halfway full and these tables occupied to pretty much the same ratio, the bass player sits in a chair with his back to the crowd the entire time. He and his cohorts in this trio, a guitarist and drummer, play nothing but jazzy, upbeat instrumentals, which is fine, except they keep stopping and starting songs over again, even if a couple of minutes into the piece. 

Alan and I exchange puzzled glances and many a what the fuck?, as it’s hard to tell just what these guys are trying to accomplish – had one of them messed up and picked the tune up from scratch, or did they like it so much they wanted to play it again, or was it some kind of experimental stuff like late issue Coltrane or Miles or something, where they were trying different variations based around the same melody? Then again, for all we know, these guys may very well still be in practice mode. It’s not like, I don’t know, they actually address the crowd or anything, not even once. But after about an hour of this, we’ve seen enough. 

“You ready to go?” Alan asks me. 

“Yeah,” I nod. 

As we’re standing up to leave, however, he happens to glance at this table behind us, where amid the deeper gloom of that recess, some kid of roughly our age, with short buzzed hair, sits alone. Though I certainly would not, Alan insists he recognizes this dude and believes he went to high school with us. Thus walks over to talk to the guy, while I’m stuck watching more of this Foley horseshit. 

He does keep the conversation mercifully brief, returning to explain, as we leave, that this was Aaron Little, an upperclassman who used to have really long hair back in our teenage years. The name does sound somewhat familiar, although I’m still astounded that Alan picked him out in there. After Alan explained that he plays the drums, Aaron mentioned that he has a little basement studio at his place over in Clintonville, and is looking to assemble a band. The two of them then exchanged numbers. 

February 7 – Superstar Rookie/Salthorse show at Little Brothers.

February 9 – Local Color show at Not Al’s Rockers.

February 15 – a Cajun band named File (there should be an accent mark over the e, though I’m too lazy to figure that out at the moment) plays at Little Brothers.

Also, the professor of piano at Denison University, Stephen Zank, travels a short distance up the road to put on a performance here. It’s a free concert held at the Graves Recital Hall on Karl Rd, start time 4pm

And then a little later on, at 6pm, OSU’s Concert and Symphonic Bands take the stage at the Wexner Center. This one is free of charge, too.

February 18 – Secretary of State Madeleine Albright comes to St. John Arena to discuss a possible invasion of Iraq. The crowd is out of control, booing & challenging her every point, a disastrous town meeting that’s broadcast live on CNN.

February 26 – The OSU men’s hockey team plays its final game at the Ice Rink.

February 28 – And then two nights later, its men’s basketball team closes out the St. John Arena era with an overtime loss to Penn State. Both programs, along with the women’s b-ball, are moving to the Schottenstein Center when it opens in the fall.

March 7 – Drexel Grandview has a one-off midnight showing for the Neil Young tour documentary, Year Of The Horse. This is my first visit to this theater. I count an attendance grand total of 8 – although it’s worth noting and kind of cool that none of us leave until after the end credits have finished.

March 17 – St. Patrick’s Day Irish Fest event at Vets Memorial. I’ve just gotten home from work when Alan & Snoop breeze in, want to know if I feel like going. The ticket price ($10) is a bit too rich for my blood, however. “Mine too,” Alan admits, “but I figured what the hell.”

My coworker Kathleen is having a party at her place later, which is mainly what I’m concerned about. We agree to meet up after they leave the Irish Fest and hit this party. As it turns out, which seems like an amazing coincidence, Snoop lives at 100 W. Maynard, Kathleen in an apartment at 161. So Alan, Snoop, some of his roommates and I walk down to the party. One of Snoop’s friends, John S, takes one look at some of the people on the balcony, before we’ve even reached the building, says, “oh no. Huh uh. I’m outta here,” turns around and walks back to the house. We’re cracking up because it’s hard to imagine what would’ve provoked this reaction.

Uncle Sam’s Dream Machine play at Ruby Tuesday. Alan and Snoop cap off the festivities over there watching them. It’s a weird night even by St. Patty’s standards and Damon had been at Ruby’s earlier himself, before he and I join forces for a breakfast run over to Sugar Shack.

March 28

Guided By Voices show at Bernie’s Bagels. For an in depth rundown of the club’s events calendar, please visit that page.

April 7 – Dick Dale show at the Newport. For a full recap of their 1998 events (and beyond), please click the link to visit that page.

May 9 – George Strait is at the Horseshoe, selling upwards of 70,000 tickets for this StraitFest show. That’s nearly twice of what U2 managed a year earlier, and more than even the Rolling Stones moved, last September. Who said this wasn’t a cow town? Our friends Mandy and Melissa and Mandy’s mom attend the concert, parking at our house and hanging out for like 5 minutes before walking down there.

May 13 – Some crappy band named Buddha’s Toothbrush is playing at Victory’s. This I know because Damon, Alan, and I somehow get the bright idea to check out that scene on a Wednesday. It’s completely dead. A few hot chicks but not many. In fact, some guy comes up and asks us, “is this a gay bar? I’m from out of town.”

We tell him no, then once he’s out of earshot, Damon jokes that he felt like adding, “no, but if you’re looking for one…,” and then making up some directions.

Each of us have exactly one beer apiece – who could afford more than one here? Although they do have a single redeeming feature, which is pizza for 80 cents a slice on Wednesdays. This is the kind of thing you tend to forget entirely, that Victory’s did (and may still) serve not just pizza but surprisingly decent pizza. I don’t remember this at all, but it says so in my notes. Anyway, we scarf down a couple of slices each, then split this lame establishment in favor of karaoke night at Woody’s.

May 20 – Alan and Larry attend Creed show at Newport. I’m invited but am not interested in going.

It’s a strange night all around. By the time those two return, we have a mini gathering shaping up at our house. But though I almost never come down with even the slightest cold, I’m feeling majorly ill out of nowhere and will spend the entire night in my bed, missing the festivities altogether. Meanwhile, a house that’s basically across the street from us burns to the ground. I have my windows open and can hear the crackling flames, as their orange lights dance around my dark bedroom, while the firemen shout instructions to one another, and people in our kitchen discuss what’s happening as they crane their necks for a look.

May 27 – Superstar Rookie are at Cafe Bourbon Street. Alan and Damon attend this show.

June 8 – Damon and I are walking to Not Al’s Too, and are right behind Bernie’s when Dave Copper exits the back door with some drums in his hand. Whatever hour this is, he just finished playing, but says it’s for another band and not Superstar Rookie. Dan and Travis and some other friends are down there at the bar anyway, but we don’t bother going in. As it turns out I forgot my ID and can’t get into Not Al’s.

June 10 – Swervedriver and Spoon show at Little Brothers, which I’m lucky enough to attend for free.

August 2 – This appears to be the day that OSU’s student newspaper The Lantern went live online, or at least uploaded a bunch of older content. It took me a little while to figure this out, and was creating some major confusion when attempting to verify dates in the event calendar – like for Stache’s, which went out of business in May of ’97. Stumbling onto a Lantern entry for 8/2/98 saying bands were playing at Stache’s “this weekend” sent me down a short lived rabbit hole, wondering if there was a brief revival for this legendary venue, and I never heard about it.

September 23 – Jill and I attend an Aerosmith show at Polaris Amphitheater. Monster Magnet opens. She’s decided that dreadful ballad from Armageddon is “our song” (guys have no say in matters like these), and they play that, sure, but otherwise it’s a pretty killer show. The two Joes in the band are amazing. Perry’s guitar tone is out of this world, and Kramer’s a complete animal on the drum kit. Monster Magnet are decent, although the only thing I remember distinctly is that they played Space Lord last, of course, and the crowd really got into belting out the chorus – that’s actually somewhat unusual for an opening act, in my experience. Jill’s wearing open toed sandals and by the end of the night, the dewy lawn has frozen her feet half solid.

October 1 – Gloritone, Superstar Rookie, 84 Nash, The Deal at Little Brothers

November 23 – WWF’s “Monday Night Raw” is filmed at the Schottenstein Center. Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J of Insane Clown Posse are “with” some crew called The Oddities, whatever that means. They lose to an awesome sounding duo called The Head Bangers (Mosh & Thrasher). The Rock wins to hold onto his championship crown. Andy Kaufman’s buddy Jerry Lawler is one of the commentators.

December 28 – I think Superstar Rookie might have played a show on West Oakland somewhere.

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Many Worlds Inside One Continent

The Continent French Market Columbus Ohio

Though rumors continue to swirl concerning a potential comeback for this one great shopping center, to date nothing much has happened. Yes, after a brief shuttering, someone did swoop in to revive the (now sadly defunct) movie theater, but that’s been about it for positive developments in this century. That this space still exists at all, however, with its sign continuing to tower above I-71 in the heart of town, is as triumphant as it is bizarre, and I think to have hung around this long can only mean one thing: the Continent will close this loop and survive to see better days, whatever those might be. Safe to say whatever form it takes will scarcely resemble those which have come before. To my mind there are three distinct eras for the Continent, each of them (sadly) a little less spectacular than the previous.

  1. French Market heyday: everyone raved endlessly about Easton when it dropped, that whole outdoors strolling at a shopping mall thing, despite the French Market here having preceded it by more than two decades. Growing up in the Mansfield area, we would load up a car full of people on occasion and make the hour drive down just to visit this place, because there was nothing around quite like it. My girlfriend at the time, Heather, loved the candle shop – I once took a vacation day from work and drove down to buy her this elaborate dolphin candle, for an Xmas present – and we also liked sampling the various restaurants. Though dining at many a franchise, this particular Damon’s, The Place For Ribs location always seemed the most happening and upscale one in town. A handful of us also caught Dumb And Dumber at the theater here in December of ’94. A couple decades earlier than this, I have read, Anthony Hopkins was here for the premier of a movie called A Bridge Too Far.

2. Happening Nightlife Destination: The mid to late 90s meant you were most likely showing up here no earlier than 10pm, because they still boasted a handful of extremely popular clubs. Sometimes you’d be standing in line looking around at the shops, most of them surely closed by this hour, elbowing your buddies with a “heh heh, check it out!” type maneuver as you pointed to a business you couldn’t believe was still hanging around. You knew the situation didn’t look pretty, necessarily, for these retail offerings, but figured some would continue to do okay, mainly because the masses still swarmed here by night. Crazy Louie’s, the Yucatan Liquor Stand, and the Funny Bone comedy club were mainstays of this era.

3. Low Rent Apartments And…Not Much Else! At present, and ever since about the year 2000 or so, some restaurants have enjoyed success, a couple of lesser torches keep the dance club flame alive, some office space tenants are theoretically happy with their choices, and that’s about it. Unless you count these swell apartments, of which I think I’ve actually set foot inside three. These were all coworkers of mine at Kroger, degenerate single dudes who liked to throw parties pretty much around the clock.

As far as specific memories of visiting the Continent are concerned, I remember a shopping outing on a warm, sunny October day in ’94 with Heather and her good friend Jennifer, just the three of us, the trip inspiring me to sneak back days later and pick up the dolphin candle. We had been here before then, however, and it was always basically an all-day adventure, despite the relatively small space, walking around shopping and grabbing a meal or two. Another night in December, Heather, her sister Laura, and Laura’s boyfriend and I did the whole ribs and trivia bit at the Damon’s, then took in Jim Carrey’s breakthrough bit of buffoonery, at the theater.

And that was it for a little while. Did the decline make us all stay away, or did our staying away create the decline? I suppose both sides, collectively speaking, were culpable in this downfall. In retrospect however it’s almost as though set pieces were being changed in a play, and none of us were willing to return until that process was complete. Hence our next extended run here, from ’97 to ’99, during which time we might visit these dance clubs on a weekly or even twice weekly basis…but it was pretty much the only reason you had for coming out here.

Below I will try to get a handle on the past and present for this once mighty entertainment mecca. One amusing footnote is that despite the presence of closer and much more imaginatively named roads cutting through here (Boulevard Victor Hugo, Boulevard Lafayette) everything is listed as being on the nearest major road of Busch, i.e. this is the exact opposite of how most shopping centers in Columbus are now classified. Anyway here is the current state of affairs:

6084 Busch Blvd: Address given for Continent Apartments headquarters. It’s a little confusing, though, because if you visit their website, the slightly more upscale Continent Village Apartments (6374 Busch) are depicted instead. The clusters much nearer to the market are still, to my knowledge, not quite as flashy.

6118 Busch Blvd: Jose’s Cabana, a Mexican restaurant with a snazzy light purple exterior. Out of current tenants, I believe they’ve been here the longest by a mile – I think somewhere around 15 years, but possibly more like 20. Party Clubhouse, a bar, is located here also.

In past lives, this building was an Oodles Billiards & Lounge, Patio At The Continent, Patio 6118 (probably just a rebranding), and a Manhattan Sports Bar.

6136 Busch Blvd.

Spain Night Club Columbus Ohio
Spain Night Club

Spain Night Club. I’ve not had cause for venturing inside, but the exterior does look nice. They’ve been here since 2017 and may have therefore technically been the most successful operation to call this address home. Hard as this is to believe. Taqueria Don Pedro, a taco restaurant, also claims this address, and if I’m not mistaken is a satellite operation located within – available for dine-in, takeout, or delivery.

From 1997-2001 this space belonged to Crazy Louie’s, which crashed and burned in the courtyard of our favor in fairly short order. We didn’t exactly avoid the place entirely, though it soon lost most of its luster. Was also a place called Whispers Cabaret (2010), among others.

In between there was a Rush Creek Sports Bar (’06-’09.) They boast a combination of TVs, big screens, and projectors that number over 30. Every NFL and college football game, too, because as their ads like to boast, That Matters! Still, referring to themselves as “Columbus’ Premier Sports Bar & Restaurant” is laying it on a bit too thick.

6170 Busch Blvd: Culture, which bills itself as “a full-service, multifaceted, 3-part event venue.” This is located in the yellow building behind Jose’s Cabana, et cetera, a stone’s throw north up Lafayette. Tastebuds Catering, presumably the outside-world arm of this operation, is at 6170 also.

6172 Busch Blvd: Was most recently The Patio Lounge, but is not currently in use. This is where you start to get into some of these internal buildings which have had a slew of occupants over the years – it’s going to take a while for me to sort these out.

6200 Busch Blvd Unit B: Mommy And Me Childcare And Enrichment Center.

6230 Busch Blvd: WTMH Radio Station.

6230 Busch Blvd #102: local Libertarian Party headquarters.

6230 Busch Blvd #200: Legacy Life Center

6230 Busch Blvd #234: Show 83, home of a radio broadcast of some sorts.

Eclipse Lounge Columbus Ohio

6240 Busch Blvd: Eclipse Lounge at present. But it has also been O’Shecky’s Pizza & Grill/Live Bar, Rapallo’s (I think they relocated here from elsewhere on the premises), Conti’s Pub & Club, and a Houlihan’s (my good friend Jeremy Wendling waited tables here during its heyday).

6250 Busch Blvd: Buceye Dispensary & Cafe (that is not a typo, though I’m not sure about the significance of this spelling). Self-described as “legal potent products,” so yeah, I’m sure you can figure out what the deal is here. Indica Gummies, Infused Sugar, and Pre-Rolled Joints are some key items on their homepage.

6252 Busch Blvd.

Is currently The King Of Clubs, a live music venue. But prior to this was also the home for something called Oasis Entertainment, Creed’s Janitorial Service, 2020 Night Club, Coliseum, Nvivo, and then – yes! – Yucatan Liquor Stand. I also see something called In Cahoots listed here in this old directory, during the same time period, although if I recall correctly this might have been some smaller section within the Yucatan.

The Coliseum was here though at least September 2006. Their ads are hilariously boring and vaguely early 90s looking in a non-ironically un-fun way. On Fridays at this time they had Ultimate Singles Ladies Night – ladies get in free, and “Columbus’ Top DJ” plays Top 40 cuts as well as rock and European cuts. Also advertising Miami South Beach Dance Nite on that particular Saturday (9/23) featuring the “HOTTEST sounds from the Caribbean” – I’m not sure if this is every Sat or not.

And as of Aug ’06, Saturday nights mean Sabados Gigantes, a dance party that kicks off at 10pm. Free dance lessons are even given until 11. Ray Arebalo of Ritmo Productions is the DJ for these events. In an Alive! Article dated 8/31/06, he says “there is a wide variety of nationalities,” showing up to his Latin dance extravaganzas, and adds, “I would say about 60 percent are Latin. The other 40 percent are non-Latin. These people are all mostly college-educated, internet-savvy, culturally aware and diverse.”

Gatherings at the Continent are a still a thing, too, as of 2006, at The Coliseum In conjunction with Rush Creek. These are a series of free outdoor concerts/bike nights featuring, or so they claim, an average of around 2000 motorcycles. Gates open at 4pm every Thursday. Johnsonville brats are grilled in support local charities, and it’s open container permissible, of course. Here is the schedule for that year:

May 18 – Fat Dog

May 25 – Zoso

June 1 – The Menus

June 8 – Watershed

June 15 – Appetite For Destruction

June 22 – Fat Dog

June 29 – Cleverin

July 6 – The Menus

July 13 – Lt. Dan’s New Legs

July 20 – Appetite For Destruction

July 27 – Zoso

August 3 – Cleverin

August 10 – Fat Dog

August 17 – Appetite For Destruction

August 24 – The Menus

August 31 – Reaganomics

September 7 – Fat Dog

September 14 – Mojo Risin

September 21 – Cleverin

September 28 – The Menus

In the same space, as of summer ’06, there are also “hottt Friday Nights,” every week, hosted by Power 107’s DJs, and Saturday nights mean Top 40 with WNCI’s Chachi.

Yucatan Liquor Stand came before the Coliseum. We certainly had our share of vivid nights here, far more than even Crazy Louie’s. And just like that place, I also recall my maiden voyage into these magical lands. It was September of 1997 and a bunch of us had rented a van for Maria’s birthday, beginning the evening downtown. However after a brief foray there, the next destination was decided in near unanimous fashion, this being the Yucatan Liquor Stand. I didn’t know enough to say one way or the other, but everyone else seemed to agree that this was a major spot we couldn’t miss, and its next door neighbor Crazy Louie’s existed only a slight notch below. This one probably cracks my top 3 in all-time most ignorant Columbus outings. Both my friend Maria and I inaugurated the place by peeing in some bushes before we even entered it. Then I found myself inexplicably shoved halfway across the dance floor while making out with and groping the girlfriend of another person in our party. Needless to say we were both quite wasted…and “snuck” off to a quiet corner, where she and I were busted again. After unsuccessfully attempting to vomit in an upstairs bathroom, I sat down for a quick little snooze on some steps and was bounced from the place. We haven’t been here very long at all, but I retreat to the van and pass out. Will spend the remainder of the evening there, though the bus rolls on to other destinations. But yeah, this pretty much summarizes the Yucatan Liquor Stand Experience.

My second will occur just a couple months later. Having just been over at Crazy Louie’s with a bunch of coworkers (from the Damon’s on Olentangy) and other assorted friends. Growing tired of that first club, our ragtag crew drifts around a corner, bound on foot for the Yucatan. Cracking up to consider the Damon’s franchise here, which is tottering on its last legs. Dave Weinle famously walked out midshift as a manager there, before Mark Stokes threw him a lifeline and invited him to our restaurant, the first of many defections. Most recently, a month or so ago, they brought over head cook Mike Soter, and I feel he won’t be the last.

Anyway, upon climbing the steps into the Yucatan, some sneering chick attired in beach comber clothes with her long black hair tucked up into an Oakland A’s hat – a look I almost always hate, too, on females, that hair under the hat thing – is working the door and allows most of us passage, but freezes in front of Virginia. Judging from the nasty smirk she’s wearing I wonder if this girl isn’t related to Wiseman, and I categorize her reaction as the cheap offshoot of jealousy.

“She’s drunk,” our bouncer friend declares, “I’m not letting her in!”

“What?” we curse, the night suddenly seeming doomed, somehow, irreparably damaged, a lost cause.

“What’s the problem?” a second bouncer drifts past, a weightlifter with bazooka arms, standing as tall as the ceiling.

I sniff impending disaster but John H has connections everywhere, he’s quick on his heels and in fact he’s sought out this other bouncer, an old frat buddy of his. This shining armored saint beams and winks at us, nodding his head at Virginia, telling the chick in the Oakland A’s cap to cool out and have a seat. Now that this ordeal is finished to satisfaction we have to wonder why we bothered, though, as in a far cry from my previous visit here this place is nearly deserted. Even circa 1997, you still had to pick and choose your spots at these clubs.

On a vibrant Saturday evening the surf and beach motif fits this bar like a glove, a shelter against the encroaching season of harsh Ohio winter. But on a night like this, lifeless as the county morgue, the dangling surfboards and Hawaiian employee attire ring false, tacky even, a miserable condition compounded further by the obscure dreck their DJ is spinning and the murky overhead lights shrouding most of the club in shadow. Despite the tropical theme here Crazy Louie’s is far sunnier, with its popular dance hits of today, luminous as an exploding star, and it’s easy to deduce why Yucatan is sinking deeper by the day.

“Whew, talk about a change of pace,” Damon whistles.

“I was in here once on Saturday, though,” I tell him, “and it was wall to wall, just like Crazy Louie’s is now.”

“Man, a frozen daiquiri sounds good,” he says, “you want one? I’ll buy.”

“Yeah, sure,” I reply.

Two hours have passed since my lone beer over at John’s, and I don’t see how one small daiquiri can affect my performance the least bit. An average looking barmaid, elevated to supermodel status here by the dearth of valid competition, whips out the blender, all smiles as she compiles our cocktails and tops them off with whipped cream, the kind of first rate service you can never get on campus or for that matter any bar where’s there’s an actual crowd to deal with. Drinks in hand, we stand by the dance floor railing, watching the dozen or so bodies shimmying below.

Sean’s standing along the railing about twenty feet down from us, but everyone else is trashed and tearing up the dance floor. Wiseman takes offense at my standing around and yanks me, with considerable force, until I’m out there alongside him. Lauren’s approach is much more subtle, as she waves to Damon, encouraging him to join us. But in his camouflage jacket and horn rimmed glasses he looks ill equipped for a night of shaking booty, plus he’s trashed, and so he just stands there idly watching everyone else.

“There’s two whores!” Frank announces, well stewed by alcohol himself, and shoves me into two overweight chicks dancing nearby, “come on! They’re throwing it out like it’s CHRISTMAS!”

Plowing into them all three of us nearly topple, though to their credit they look relatively unruffled by this transgression, and I manage not to spill my daiquiri all over the place. Through their half grimaces I spot a glimmer of mild entertainment, but it’s not the kind of open arm encouragement one typically looks for, so I retreat. Continuing to slurp my frozen cocktail, I lightly sway to the strains of this otherwise unlistenable techno track, watching Lauren as she tries, to no avail, yanking Damon onto the floor much as Frank had done me.

“Man, get rid of your drink!” Wiseman bellows, as though greatly outraged by my style – or lack thereof. “I’ll teach you how to pick up some women yet!”

But despite Frank’s protests my eyes are on Virginia, dancing just a few feet away, near the three carpeted steps leading up to the rest of rest of the room. Her cyclone of motion leads her into these steps, where she stumbles and falls, sprawling onto the blood red carpet almost precisely at Damon’s feet. Perfect opportunist he is, Damon doesn’t hesitate before swooping down to her rescue, hoisting her to her feet again.

Time always passes much too fast in these clubs, and the next thing any of us know the house lights are warming to life, it’s two a.m. The barmaids and bouncers shout menacing declarations meant to goad us into finding the exit, knowing full well it will take approximately twenty minutes for anyone to arrive there. As a preemptive strike they move their clocks ahead twenty minutes, thus engendering the same result of everyone out the door by the magic hour.

Forgetting this for one costly moment I meander outside, spotting Sean there shivering on the stoop, hands in pockets. Standing in just our tee shirts the autumn wind chills us down to the marrow, and after a few minutes like this we attempt to gain reentry, only to find the front doors locked and our smartass bouncer in the Oakland A’s cap on the other side, waving to us as she beams with sarcasm, finally capitalizing on her golden opportunity for retribution.

6312 Busch Blvd.

Listed as Delfin Hookah & Lounge – but also listed as “temporarily” closed. This was formerly the site of Funny Bone Comedy Club, before they bolted in favor of Easton Town Center.

In between these two eras, a restaurant called Sunset Negril was here as of March 2006. Caribbean cuisine, coffee lounge, then they roll back the metaphorical carpets at night and become a dance club. Homemade specials, patio, but closed on Sunday.

6360 Busch Blvd: ICGC Columbus Nourishment Center. This was once the home of Screens At The Continent – a feel-good story while it lasted.

Continent French Market  Lights Columbus Ohio

I think that’s it for the current occupants. And yet this list is a bit more robust than the last time I checked in, which makes me semi-confident that it might survive in some fashion until the long awaited upswing. In the early 2000s, a filmmaker contacted its owners about using this place as a ghost town, and all kidding aside, it does look a little livelier than that now. But whatever the case, do yourself a favor sometime and stop in here to support the existing operations. Take a stroll down memory lane, shoot some photographs or perhaps a little movie of your own. Even for me, it’s been far too long since I have done so.

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Damon’s, The Place For Ribs

Dining Room of Damon's on Olentangy River Road.

Though a former employee at two different locations, I actually didn’t know until researching this piece that the restaurant chain Damon’s (a.k.a. “The Place For Ribs”) was in fact founded in Columbus in 1979. As far as I can determine, the last location remaining in town closed its doors in 2011, although a handful remain in the states and – bizarrely enough – there are a few still over in England.

Above is a picture I snapped one day, of the location where I once worked. This one was attached to the Parke University Hotel on Olentangy River Rd and that’s an exterior shot of the dining room, taken from my car. So not the most exciting photo in the world but at least you can see how it looked. The company logo at the time kind of resembled the nautical flag for “diver down,” which should have maybe been a bad omen itself – a red rectangle with a white diagonal slash. Apart from the ribs, they were probably most famous for the onion loaf, which reeked to the high heavens and had one of these diver down flags planted at its summit. My personal favorite though was the Steamboat, which was this hollowed out bread loaf filled with a mountain of BBQ pork and topped with shredded cheese. In another nifty creative touch, they also had their dessert menu loaded on one of those red plastic Viewfinder toys, planted at each table.

Even by late 90s standards, though, the exterior décor was shabby, and the interior not much better. With its white plaster walls and hot cocoa carpet both no thicker than a page of the Columbus Dispatch, its matching plywood trim an equally disgusting shade of brown, the dining room where I worked had clearly not seen a remodel since probably the day it opened its doors. The dining room does have one redeeming feature, which is a giant bay window overlooking Olentangy River Rd. Three small two top tables are situated along the curve, and whenever the weather’s exceptional, I like to sit or stand there, dearth of patrons permitting. Cars hiss down Olentangy, but the gravestones filling this massive cemetery across the way remain unmoving, as they surely always will, the perfect backdrop to stare and dream against. And that’s about it for the dining room.

The clubhouse half of the operation, with its big screen TVs broadcasting sports non-stop all day, fared a little better, although even then, owing to the technology of the era, placing speakers at every table – so patrons could choose which event to tune in to – meant running wiring up through the table stand. Which meant the tables couldn’t be moved, which meant no large parties in the clubhouse. It was an unfortunate setup, as the big tops were either forced into our dreadful dining room, or one of the hotel’s banquet halls.

Our dining room definitely attracted a more elderly crowd, too, ones who’d probably last changed homes fifty years prior and could relate to the antiquated decorating scheme. This makes sense, but little else about the establishment does. Under this broad umbrella you might include its very design. Whichever architect laid out the blueprint for this abomination either fell under the influence of some heavy chemicals, or paid for his degree on the black market. At the very least, he should have been sent packing before the first pickaxe was lifted.

Attached as it is to the Parke University Hotel, our restaurant has a long central hallway running right down the middle, connecting the lobbies of both. The clubhouse and its kitchen are on one side of the hallway, the dining room and its kitchen on the other. In between, eighty year old grandmas clomp down the carpeted hall with walkers, kids bounce soccer balls, moms and dads stagger back to their rooms drunk. The clubhouse does three times as much business as the dining room, if not more, and yet its kitchen is about as big as the janitor’s broom closet. By logical extension, then, it stands to reason that our inanimate dining room kitchen has enough space to double as a practice field for the Buckeyes football squad. A pair of doors theoretically connect the two, but between these lies the obstacle of that goddamn hallway.

So as all prep work is done in the dining room kitchen – flouring onion loaves, baking bread, and countless other chores – our poor preps carry steaming hot, four by two metal pans from their work stations, creak the one swinging open door very carefully so as not to drill any passing hotel guests, look both ways, cross the hall, mount two steps, open the clubhouse door – it only swings out, not in, another brilliant conception – and then fight their way into the cramped cubicle where, on a good day, as many as half a dozen cooks are jostling about, yelling, cursing, in general paying little mind to some quiet, underpaid foreigner bringing in their next batch of barbecue sauce.

The faded red tee shirts our cooks had to wear were kind of cool in their own way, though. Certainly better than the ghastly uniforms we servers were always forced to break out. We went from hot pink polo monstrosities, to referee type vertical striped company shirts, and then finally to these white, long sleeved dress shirts, purchased at our own expense. March Madness did bring with it a brief series of black and white tee shirts, trumpeting that year’s (1998) event. At least the black dress slacks and non-skid shoes remained the same, and were not too horrific.

George Steinbrenner, he of New York Yankees fame, is in the ownership mix of both hotel and restaurant, although I’m not sure to what extent. I spot him at our breakfast buffet just once, having been alerted to his presence by a number of other coworkers, as we peeked around from the service station corner to gawk at him. At any rate, when the baseball season is in full swing, the Clippers often lodge at the Parke hotel during homestands, particularly the big ticket stars who might only be slumming it on a rehab stint.

Akash normally waits tables with me, in the moribund dining room, but one afternoon in the summer of ’97, he’s scheduled in the clubhouse instead. On this particular shift he has the 120s section, which, on the tri-level, rainbow shaped floor, means the middle cluster, far right, if facing from the front entrance. Word circulates he’s waiting at this moment on what passes as our greatest recurring celebrity, a spectacle I’ve thus far missed. In previous seasons, they tell me, both Darryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden were constant clubhouse presences, during rehab stints with the Clippers; just my luck that this year we’re accorded instead a Japanese import, pitcher Hideki Irabu. Brought here after the hype machine and an intense bidding war dropped him into Steinbrenner’s back pocket, the history shattering king’s ransom his signing bonus. Irabu polishes his act here before an eventual call to the big show, a possible metaphor for what folks think about this city in general.

I happen across the clubhouse just as Hideki’s finishing lunch. A veritable mountain of dishes cover every square inch of his two top table, as he reclines and lights a cigarette, with his fantastic Buddha mound of a belly nearly reaching the eating surface. I confer with Akash in the clubhouse server station, who beams and whispers, counting off the dishes on his fingers, everything the star twirler has knocked off – and only in baseball, I’m thinking, could a prized athlete get away with this. In the papers George will refer to his golden boy as a “fat, pussy toad,” and yes, to the naked eye, the Asian sensation is disastrously out of shape, but so long as that arm is lively he will justify the millions spent, you can chisel his enshrinement plaque as god.

As a true fanatic of the national pastime, though, I get a kick out of rubbing elbows with any of the players – and Damon’s also has an outpost right inside Cooper Stadium, it’s worth noting, to which a number of our employees are frequently loaned. Although this thrill is mitigated somewhat once I discover to what extent these minor leaguers, ahem, poach the talent from our farm club, i.e. establish hookups for when they are in town. Whenever they’re around, we sad dudes wearing the clowntastic Damon’s uniform become invisible, and we stand little chance of dating most of these girls. This is a cycle that will repeat every summer.

As the name would imply, ribs are a drawing card, too, although it does continue to amaze me that people willfully choose to eat here when so many other options abound. Attached to this dilapidated hotel of equal shabbiness, our rib joint could be a crown jewel among campus establishments but is in such a sad state of neglect it’s difficult to imagine what kind of lunatic might actually eat here. The food’s great, sure, but there’s a roach motel clipped underneath each table. Our clubhouse has a handful of big screen televisions to entice the gluttonous, beer swilling sports fan, but each time our bartenders are forced to make a mixed drink their archaic blender’s loud enough to drown out all sound. They may as well rev a motorcycle back there. And the stench arising from the busser station along one wall of the clubhouse is enough to turn even the staunchest stomachs, an aroma duplicated by the backed up floor drains across the way in my dining room server station. The cheapskates who own this place give our general manager Mark Stokes twenty dollars a week for incidental repairs or improvements, but he’d get more bang for his buck buying lottery tickets with the money than to try to fix anything on such a shoestring budget.

II.

For roughly the first 8 months of my employment here, I’m just a part-timer, working days. Then I quit my other job to go all-in on this outrageous establishment, and it’s immediately apparent I made the right move. Though enduring considerable condescension from the clubhouse veterans, us dining room servers are pulling pretty much the same amount of money with a lot less managerial interference, not to mention the requisite bitchiness from many of those same clubhouse employees. On weekends, Saturdays especially, some of us are putting in fifteen hour days, from 9am to midnight, although it’s worth it as the pace is nonstop, my coworkers are a riot, and you have the hands-on gratification of watching if not stopping to count the growing bulge of tip money in your pocket. That first great eye opener occurs on such a Saturday where the Buckeyes football game is immediately followed by the Cleveland Indians in game one of the World Series, and I walk home (or should I say, over to Woody’s) with more in this one shift than I was making all week at Kroger.

Everything will permanently change for me, after this first OSU game. Dozens of patrons without tables are standing around, drinking, lending even our relatively sedate dining room somewhat of a keg party atmosphere. So this is what it’s like to have arrived in the big leagues. They schedule five of us to carve up the dining room, and Marlene mans the seldom used bar. It’s wall to wall madness, and this would include prep work leading up to the shift itself. I help manager Jeremy carry up umpteen kegs from the strangely mazelike basement I’ve heard rumors about yet never visited. And the night before, they pay me extra to stay over and pop onions with one of the full time evening bussers, this goofy Bosnian kid named Randy who’s apparently worked here for eons.

I might know nothing about the basement, but Randy’s allegedly an expert. Multiple sources indicate that he’s been busted on more than one occasion hiding out down there to avoid work. Other than that I have no other information on him, except that he has that prototypical pale and skinny European look down, that he also speaks very little English and smiles all the time – a smile surprisingly intact and unmarred considering he seems to drink Pepsi nonstop all night, every night. Actually Randy is not even his real name, it’s something long that starts with an A. But apparently when he first started, Mark Stokes, a poker faced man of few words if ever there was one, asks this new busboy his name, purses his lips and nods his head, prints out a sticker for his badge. Randy it is, then, we are calling you Randy.

As far as this popping onions business is concerned, he and I are assigned to a prep table in the spacious dining room kitchen, where dozens of white plastic tubs await. Much like the basement, I’ve absorbed occasional mentions about popping onions but never partaken, or paid any attention to anyone tasked with such. Someone has sliced who knows how many hundreds of white onions into these tubs. Now all we have to do is manually pop them out, i.e. punch the middles with our thumbs so that they fall apart.

I already considered our wildly popular yet noxiously fumed onion loaf to be the most revolting item on the menu, and seeing what goes into their creation takes this repugnance to a whole new level. The precise alchemy eludes me, but somehow these are dumped into a deep fryer, pressed into loaf shape and seasoned, possibly with the addition of flour or something somewhere along the line. After about fifteen minutes of this popping motion, blowing one’s brains out begins to sound like a viable option.

Randy and I manage to work our way through this entire mountain of tubs, although some understandable shenanigans creep into the proceedings. We might suffer a language barrier, but fortunately certain gestures and facial expressions transcend speech. At one point, spying a tomato nearby, I seize and pantomime dropping it into the popped out tub we’re working on. Randy giggles and nods eagerly – yes, yes, do it. Into the next tub, he buries a pair of metal tongs. One of those mini bread loaves used in making Steamboats finds its way into still another. And when this stunt grows a little dull, we’re winging onions at our comatose dishtanker, though he never responds in the slightest.

Fortunately, this is an isolated assignment I can’t fathom ever agreeing to again. My first ever night shift, and then, yes, the initial OSU game, these represent complete paradigm shifts from anything I’ve known before, and from here there’s no going back. It isn’t that these nights are busier than the days ever were, or that Saturdays during football season blow the rest of the year’s out of the water. It’s that everything is different, somehow. The way it feels is as though the entire restaurant were flipped upside down and we now find ourselves in the Southern Hemisphere, or something, the seasons and the weather and everything else flip-flopped, a change this drastic. People who’ve worked here the entire time whom I’ve never met, among them some really sharp females. Entirely different clientele, including the regulars, with bigger tickets on average and therefore larger tips. Dimmer lighting, even, and a Muzak that automatically changes at 4pm from whatever randomness happens to be playing to this disco dance party mix, every night, without exception. To this day any time I hear Rock The Boat by Hues Corporation, it instantly takes me back here, showing up to work an evening shift.

People get so fired up about these Buckeyes that their mania borders on fits of panic. Working this first game, one party is in such a hurry they leave me an $18 tip on a $21 check because they’re too impatient to wait on change. We do have a couple of TV screens behind the bar, though the room layout impinges much standing around. The hardcore nuts are therefore predominantly over in the clubhouse still, for the most part, meaning the spillover we pick up are mostly the unfortunate, or the few disinterested, the ones going to or coming from the game and okay with just soaking up the atmosphere. Maybe catching some action from their fitful glimpses of the bar screens, or speculating and recapping with all these other goobers in scarlet and grey.

Front of Damon's check with handwritten notes

III.

One afternoon in early January, our audio-visual guy Kelly and I are hanging out in the clubhouse server station, bored, and are idly wondering if anyone ever cleans the upper reaches of these walls, or the drop tile ceiling, for they are looking quite grimy. It’s the kind of thing you joke about but don’t exactly mention to management, as they might consider this volunteering. 

This leads to speculation about an experiment, however. Over a series of back and forth half jesting suggestions, he and I decide to open a pack of saltines, and smear butter – or whatever it actually is – across one side of the cracker. Then draw a smile and two eyes with ketchup on the other side. He’s tall enough to reach the low ceiling, and is able to affix this humanized food bite, dubbed Mr. Smiley, to the drop tile with no other adhesive except for that butter, right in the middle of the room. Now we debate how long Mr. Smiley will beam upon us all before someone spots him. I’m a little more optimistic, proposing it will surely only last a week, while he’s going long in predicting a month. As it turns out, we are both way wrong: April. This thing doesn’t disappear until April.

So this is another fascinating subject, these case studies in what does or doesn’t get noticed at the restaurant. Cleaning out the Evergeen Room one night after a banquet, I find this lacy purple bra, its owner by appearances a well-endowed one, flung on the floor underneath a table. Interesting. I had no idea the guests were getting down like that in here. Stuffing it into my apron, I don’t have time and am too dead on my feet to think of how to plant it right then. But arriving to open the following morning, I sneak over to the clubhouse, and hang it from the corner of this framed Mike Tomczak jersey, in a dark, crowded section of wall. Nobody saw me, but this thing is common knowledge within half an hour, which just blows my mind. I keep my mouth shut as the remaining servers attempt to solve this crime.

“Who wears a bra that size?” 

“Is it Ewok’s?” 

“Is it Marlene’s?” 

“No, I don’t think she wears one that big.” 

No one bothers to actually take it down, of course, so late afternoon is upon us before Jeff notices the bra dangling there. He then defiantly strolls through our main kitchen toting it, as though a vice squad detective having made a huge bust, but in reality that purple undergarment billowed above a room full of paying customers for hours.

And yet the Mr. Smiley saltine persists in plain sight in the clubhouse server station, weeks after Kelly and I placed it there. Maybe we should bring in those ceiling tile specialists from the Swabby shows to work their magic on these as well. 

Kelly is also at the center of the latest intrigue, as I arrive to open the dining room yet again. “Dude, there’s a half empty keg sitting in the Evergreen Room!” he tells me first thing, his moon sized blue eyes even wider than usual, a mischievous grin on his face. 

“What?! Is it flat?” I gasp. 

He’s not sure about this detail, so we head over there in the name of scientific research. Sure enough, in our tiniest yet most trafficked banquet space, just up the hall from the managers’ office, here this metallic buoy floats on a bed of all but melted ice. Clearly, a remnant of last night’s party, which our faceless guests paid for but failed to kill. Isn’t it a sin to let perfectly fine beverages go to waste? Kelly doesn’t really drink much but is eager to pump after I go grab a clean cup. 

Though far from cold and heavily foamed, it’s beer, alright, and even the foam transforms by unknown alchemy to still more beer if you leave it sit long enough. Bruce and Akash, the next two servers to arrive, are soon clued into our little discovery, and we take turns sneaking over for refills the rest of our shift – a diversion so appealing that even Kelly can’t resist joining in the fun. Though unable to speak for the other three guys, I’m about half loopy by noon. 

IV. 

At the conclusion of the 1998 March Madness basketball tournament, the dining room is shuttered for a much needed remodel. During this time, we will operate out of the Evergreen Room if business dictates – pretty much only during weekend nights, or for large parties who have booked the space – but otherwise cram ourselves into the clubhouse, both patrons and wait staff alike. Though the remodel is accomplished in what feels like an impressive three weeks, casualties mount in short order on both sides of this equation, some of which are never seen again.

All signs point to a clear demarcation of eras, though it’s anyone’s guess what this might mean. While the final four doesn’t conclude until an insane Monday night, where L.J. is going positively berserk in the clubhouse, as his beloved Kentuck-ah Waaaahlcats claim another title, and the typical rate of his playing YMCA every fifteen minutes so people can jump up and reenact the arm motions is doubled, it’s decided that the Saturday prior is our last night of business for the current dining room.

It’s estimated with complete seriousness that I might have spent more hours in this room than anyone in the history of the restaurant. Most normal folk jumped ship after about a month in this space. As such it’s with a little bit of sadness, shutting this puppy down, its future not altogether certain.  Saturday night, after shutting the place down, we servers on that half are tasked with cleaning the dining room and stripping it down to the fixtures. Everything is hauled either into the kitchen or the basement – tables and chairs, ketchup bottles, glasses, every drop of booze behind the bar. By the end of this exercise, I’m so wiped out that I drive straight home and collapse in bed.

back of Damon's check

Things do not exactly end on good terms here. I will wind up getting canned near the end of April, 1998. But even after being terminated, I am not quite finished with my former employer, nor they with me. We will continue to toy with one another, albeit from a distance. These are all very distant, nebulous chess moves, inconclusive and perfectly defensible as accidents – the culmination of which, I have to admit, is the final W-2 they turn in for my tenure here.

Stumbling onto this document just now has totally made my night. I couldn’t find the W-2 itself at the moment, but here’s the correction they eventually filed. As you can see, they have me at $249,648.26 in tip money for those three plus months, which let’s just say differs ever so slightly from my records. By, like, $247,000. We were doing okay waiting tables here, sure, but not that okay.

corrected 1998 W-2 for Jason McGathey

This piece of paper is so hysterical that I feel like framing it. I never really determine whether they did this intentionally, either for comedic effect or the latest volley in this back and forth battle. Perhaps this was an attempt to indirectly bill me for damages. Whatever the case, I have a hard time believing it was an honest typo, committed while filling out paperwork for one of their servers. Actually I have a hard time believing anyone involved with this operation made $250K on the year.

V.

I eventually realized in going through my stats for this site that there are a couple of posts that (relatively speaking, of course) “blew up” for a minute on Reddit. Someone posted a link from a subreddit there, over to here, which I truly appreciate, especially as it sent a decent amount of traffic my way. However, one of the more frustrating and befuddling aspects about this is that what tends to happen is someone will read that subreddit…come over here and check out my post…then bounce back over to Reddit to comment on it, instead of doing so here. So you would never even know any of this was happening – as I didn’t either, for quite some time.

Anyway my half-baked idea for incorporating some of this is to at least post the Reddit feed here. I’m not crazy about linking over to there, but at the same time, it seems kind of stupid not to. So here goes, beginning with the one that kicked the subreddit off:

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